Thieves cut fiber lines in failed copper theft, causing Spectrum outage

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The big picture: Internet outages typically occur due to faulty equipment, accidents, or adverse weather conditions. Deliberate sabotage is rare, and incidents resulting from a mistaken search for copper should be even rarer. But telecoms say it's a growing problem, as a recent major incident near Los Angeles shows.

Suburbs near Los Angeles suffered a widespread internet outage over Father's Day weekend. Authorities later confirmed that an unsuccessful copper wire theft was the cause.

A spokesperson from Spectrum Internet told the Los Angeles Times that someone tried to cut fiber lines located on poles in Van Nuys late Saturday night, causing many of the company's customers in LA and surrounding areas to lose service throughout Sunday. Since fiber internet cables don't incorporate copper, the thieves left empty-handed. The perpetrators remain at large.

Repair crews spent Father's Day performing thousands of cable splices, with service largely restored by Monday. Spectrum promised to compensate affected customers with one day of credit.

Although the cause of the outage seems unusual, the company said that similar incidents have occurred in recent years as rising copper prices make the wires an attractive target for thieves.

Copper futures have more than doubled since early 2020. This surge is likely driven by increased demand for the metal across various industries.

Copper, a good electrical conductor, is essential for electric vehicles, which have recently surged in popularity. The International Energy Forum estimates that copper mining must expand significantly in the coming decades to meet EV demand.

Copper might also become an important component in semiconductor manufacture as companies engineer increasingly smaller nodes. Applied Materials believes that a copper wiring solution could facilitate the development of 2nm chips. Rising copper prices are also partly to blame for the growing cost of PC components.

Much of the copper sold nowadays is recycled from obsolete infrastructure. Last year, British circular economy company TXO estimated that hundreds of thousands of metric tons of old wires, worth several billion dollars, could be recycled over the next decade. The transition from copper to fiber-based telecommunications infrastructure – explaining why the LA saboteurs didn't encounter any metal – is a primary driver of recycling.

Spectrum is offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. Anyone with information should contact the local authorities or call Spectrum at (833) 404-TIPS or 8477.

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***** scumbags, they get a few dollars for copper but cost thousands in damage. The penalty for copper/metal theft should be 5 years in jail plus full restitution.

My fav copper thief story: Some dummy tried to open the transformer in the back of a giant sports mall facility to steal the copper within. They found his body the next morning 20 feet away and partially burned. KARMA! I wish this fate on ALL copper thieves!
 
About 5-6 years ago, bunch of ham radio buddies of mine have been getting together every week for lunch over the past 35 years. One of our ham buddies was an AT&T guy. There was a telephone trunk line running down one of the streets of our cites, and for YEARS, it had a bottle of liquid nitrogen parked next to a pole to freeze out the water in the line, due to a cut somewhere on the line. (this one was over 2 miles long) I asked him what happened to the liquid nitrogen tank because I passed by it every day and it was gone. He said they finally found the break and sealed the line. All of us were yacking away and I said does anyone still use that line? He said not many. Most were alarm systems which were being phased out and gone to LTE, but a couple were still older folks that still had analog telephones (POTS).
I would think by now, most of those lines were abandoned with most phones now working on VoIP.
If the copper thieves knew about it LOL they'd be shimming up the pole to try to cut them down.
Would be a PITA though to burn or strip all that insulation off though.
 
BTW - No love loss for craptastic Spectrum/Charter. One of the shadiest companies on earth. I have been battling them for over a decade over their marketing practices. For years we'd get 5-6 Indian spam calls a day on our landline....even though we're on the DNC national list AND on Spectrum/Charter "do not contact" list. To pile on, we'd also get 2-3 pieces of snail mail a week.

I dumped cable 25 years ago, it cannot compete with FIOP....not a prayer even if they gave it away for free in my area. Spectrum horror stories abound in my city, feel free to share yours. LOL
 
About 5-6 years ago, bunch of ham radio buddies of mine have been getting together every week for lunch over the past 35 years. One of our ham buddies was an AT&T guy. There was a telephone trunk line running down one of the streets of our cites, and for YEARS, it had a bottle of liquid nitrogen parked next to a pole to freeze out the water in the line, due to a cut somewhere on the line. (this one was over 2 miles long) I asked him what happened to the liquid nitrogen tank because I passed by it every day and it was gone. He said they finally found the break and sealed the line. All of us were yacking away and I said does anyone still use that line? He said not many. Most were alarm systems which were being phased out and gone to LTE, but a couple were still older folks that still had analog telephones (POTS).
I would think by now, most of those lines were abandoned with most phones now working on VoIP.
If the copper thieves knew about it LOL they'd be shimming up the pole to try to cut them down.
Would be a PITA though to burn or strip all that insulation off though.

LMAO

They don't bother shimming up here, they cut down the whole pole and get to cutting! Hell, for awhile we had a serious problem with missing manhole covers, run over that and you're done.
 
***** scumbags, they get a few dollars for copper but cost thousands in damage. The penalty for copper/metal theft should be 5 years in jail plus full restitution.

My fav copper thief story: Some dummy tried to open the transformer in the back of a giant sports mall facility to steal the copper within. They found his body the next morning 20 feet away and partially burned. KARMA! I wish this fate on ALL copper thieves!
They are non-violent offenders with no money. Expect a mild slap on the wrist.
 
Copper lines that supply land line telephones and electricity will be completely phased out soon. Its been happening here in the States as lines are upgraded. Thieves won't bother much with cheap aluminum. Too bad you can't defend yourself and your property. A 9mm is an effective deterrent.
 
I have Spectrum, and that outage would have seemed like just another day. I'm laughing at those would be copper thieves though.
I used to have Spectrum. Outages were common. When fiber came to my neighborhood, I dropped Spectrum. There have been no network outages since I went to the fiber service.
 
I used to have Spectrum. Outages were common. When fiber came to my neighborhood, I dropped Spectrum. There have been no network outages since I went to the fiber service.
We in rural areas have few options, unfortunately. I'm considering the popular new satellite setup ( not mentioning brand). Expensive though, considering I'm the only one using it. Then I'll worry about some thief climbing my roof to steal the antenna.
 
We in rural areas have few options, unfortunately. I'm considering the popular new satellite setup ( not mentioning brand). Expensive though, considering I'm the only one using it. Then I'll worry about some thief climbing my roof to steal the antenna.
Yeah, mentioning the name might bring some undesired comments. :laughing: Fewer options still that the Broadband initiative was killed by the current administration.

I'm fortunate to live in the city. We do have better internet options, but it wasn't until a few years ago until that fiber company came along. Until then, we were stuck with Spectrum or HughesNet or 4G.
 
Yeah, mentioning the name might bring some undesired comments. :laughing: Fewer options still that the Broadband initiative was killed by the current administration.

I'm fortunate to live in the city. We do have better internet options, but it wasn't until a few years ago until that fiber company came along. Until then, we were stuck with Spectrum or HughesNet or 4G.
I am apolitical. I just hope if I get that provider nobody keys it or sets it on 🔥 : )
 
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