AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Review: Have They Finally Done It?

[jbc029]

Well, sales are live. Instantly out for the lower models of XT. Remaining stock on newegg is going for $730+ from the AIBs.

Looks like there are no $600s at online retailers. Microcenters have a few, but most of online content is $700+, with a few over $800.

In particular, screw XFX. Every card they pushed out is at least $100 over MSRP. Even the entry level models.

 

[nnguy2]

Microcenter front and center and for msrp

AMD Radeon 9000 Series | Micro Center

All you need for ultra-fast gaming - Radeon RX 9000 Series Graphics Cards. Speed, performance, and visuals work together for smooth frames and total immersion.

www.microcenter.com

 

[Liranan]

Both Steves have uploaded new videos on the 9070's and they're full of praise for the cards, even HU (TS) Steve praised these cards. Sadly this doesn't help availability and stock, which is still terrible. It shows that AMD is allocating any and every transistor they can to either Epyc or Instinct. That sweet, delicious AI money, sickening.

Thanks Steve, back to you Steve.

 

[Loadedaxe]

I dont see any value in a $599 graphics card for the performance we are getting these days. Lets take out DLSS and FSR for the moment.

I have never spent over $350 for a graphics card which is what I considered mid range..(I know I know..inflation)

Currently, for a "mid range" gaming PC the cost vs a console is crazy.

Me, trying to price out a PC for my grand daughter using a 9070 or 5070 for that matter with decent parts is over $1450 (Providing I can get one of these for MSRP) without a monitor where a PS 5 is much cheaper and gets better framerates at 4k (~120), not that she needs it, she will be playing on a $199 2560x1440 32" monitor.

I can get a good laptop for her work and school, that she can even play games at 1080p with on the go and a PS5 for less with a better outcome than what these cards offer on a highend system, never mind a mid range one and she can dock the laptop when she needs more monitor real estate.

I have always said "na" to consoles, but I am starting to change my mind with all the craziness lately with video cards.

 

[Liranan]

Consoles are incomparable with PC's. Is it possible to install any office software or other productivity software on them? You mention school, which means various tasks, and then you say that you're considering a console?

That 120fps that you talk of is also highly unlikely as most titles can barely reach 60, which means that by next year they will already start struggling. We see this every generation, thus, it won't be an anomaly.

 

[Loadedaxe]

Consoles are incomparable with PC's. Is it possible to install any office software or other productivity software on them? You mention school, which means various tasks, and then you say that you're considering a console?

That 120fps that you talk of is also highly unlikely as most titles can barely reach 60, which means that by next year they will already start struggling. We see this every generation, thus, it won't be an anomaly.

Did you read the whole post ?

 

[jbc029]

I dont see any value in a $599 graphics card for the performance we are getting these days. Lets take out DLSS and FSR for the moment.

I have never spent over $350 for a graphics card which is what I considered mid range..(I know I know..inflation)

Currently, for a "mid range" gaming PC the cost vs a console is crazy.

Me, trying to price out a PC for my grand daughter using a 9070 or 5070 for that matter with decent parts is over $1450 (Providing I can get one of these for MSRP) without a monitor where a PS 5 is much cheaper and gets better framerates at 4k (~120), not that she needs it, she will be playing on a $199 2560x1440 32" monitor.

I can get a good laptop for her work and school, that she can even play games at 1080p with on the go and a PS5 for less with a better outcome than what these cards offer on a highend system, never mind a mid range one and she can dock the laptop when she needs more monitor real estate.

I have always said "na" to consoles, but I am starting to change my mind with all the craziness lately with video cards.

Honestly, if you're stuck on doing a new PC for her, getting a new strix APU would be the best route. There will be no sub-$400 cards very soon. Considering that APUs are closing in on 7600/4060 performance territory, there's no point in making them.

 

[Cristallus]

I dont see any value in a $599 graphics card for the performance we are getting these days. Lets take out DLSS and FSR for the moment.

I have never spent over $350 for a graphics card which is what I considered mid range..(I know I know..inflation)

Currently, for a "mid range" gaming PC the cost vs a console is crazy.

Me, trying to price out a PC for my grand daughter using a 9070 or 5070 for that matter with decent parts is over $1450 (Providing I can get one of these for MSRP) without a monitor where a PS 5 is much cheaper and gets better framerates at 4k (~120), not that she needs it, she will be playing on a $199 2560x1440 32" monitor.

I can get a good laptop for her work and school, that she can even play games at 1080p with on the go and a PS5 for less with a better outcome than what these cards offer on a highend system, never mind a mid range one and she can dock the laptop when she needs more monitor real estate.

I have always said "na" to consoles, but I am starting to change my mind with all the craziness lately with video cards.

If you live in Europe where I am, the cheapest 9070 XT you can get is for €720 (if you can even get one in the first place), most of the models being around €880, up to €900 and I expect it to go up. Some report prices starting from €1100 and up. $600 is already a greedy upsell.

But when I watch all big reviewers praising the 9070 series, it makes me think that AMD is shipping these cards with some serious military grade copium. These aren't great cards, not at these prices. The word "value" doesn't even belong anywhere near them.

It took just one generation to convince GPU consumers that these prices are okay. It's pathetic really.

Gamers taking another L, AMD and NVIDIA laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[McMurdeR]

Good on paper, but not a knockout.
If Nvidia's 5070 RTX cards remain in low stocks and way over MSRP, AMD will enjoy success, at least for a while.

 

[PaladinNH]

Was almost sad I didn't take off work to go to Microcenter, but then managed to score a $730 Taichi 9070 XT off Newegg while avoiding MA sales tax (NH).

Agree about the gen to gen pricing though. Until this year I've always spent $400 or less on a GPU. In the "old world" the 9070 XT should be $500, max, and the 9070, $400. Now that we've seen what people are okay with paying, not sure we'll get back down there anytime soon. The idea of $730 for last gen's high end performance is a bit unsettling (the 9070 XT is basically AMD's "4080 GRE"), but it's far more reasonable than a $1500 5080 (or $4000 5090).

 

[MarcusNumb]

Here in Spain, prices for 9070 are fluctuating around 750 to 850, and for the 9070XT those are 850 to 1000. Somehow most references are already out of stock so it's clear to me that even if AMD said the MSRP were 450, retailers and scalpers would sell them out at 900 eventually. Another sad truth here in Spain is that the biggest retailer happens to be the biggest scalper.

 

[BogdanR]

Canada, launch 9070xt launch day, 1:40 PM EST.
AMD’s “ample supply” of perhaps a couple of hundred cards is down to a few left, the cheapest left being 999 CAD ($700US). The MSRP parts were listed but frankly, not available at all, the second the listings were up you could not order one.

Ample supply my a-double-s.

Well done AMD! Congratulations for a nearly by-the-nvidia-book paper launch!

 

[llamapanda]

Not really surprising to see no stock of these anywhere for sensible prices within hours of launch, but should we really be surprised? Not only have we all just found out that nVidia screwed the pooch with the 5070 and therefore pretty much guaranteed a lot of casual-ish buyers jumping ship, but the last few years have conditioned people into the scalping mentality. From now on we should always be expecting there to be minimal availability on day one and then a raft of overpriced *****-bait on the resale market.

I'm glad AMD have managed to score an on-paper win with their product offering, but what they really needed to do as well was go all-in on absolutely flooding the market with them from the outset at MSRP and selling boatloads of them before nVidia have the chance to react by magicking up supply or slashing prices overnight as they have the power to do.

 

[Yppah]

Good card, but all depends on the availability and price. If I could get a nice model below 700 it would be a win, but if not I will just wait. Still the best option for Linux systems.
Still, the RT improvements they made is very good, lets see the upscalling and so on, but this actually gives me hope for AMD creating as competitive gpu as cpu, but right now they seems to be at ryzen 2k step. 2 generations are still required.

Still!?

Undervolting can reduce 9070 xt power consumption from 340 to 280 watts.

Lol undervolting a NVIDIA lowers power alot more than that comparably and sometimes can provide uplift.

 

[Porkous]

The results from the RT gaming tests are also pretty strange. TechPowerUp shows the 9070XT tied with the 5070 Ti in Alan Wake, while TechSpot shows these odd numbers. I think TechSpot is slipping in their tests... no wonder they leaked the power consumption data a day early. It's a mess.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/37.html

Good times to be living. So AMD has good performance overall, and at more affordable value.

Although that site doesn't say what RT settings it used?

Both articles are close in RT - ultra at 1440p on cyberpunk

 

[HardwareHunt365]

Not good, not bad- just average.

The RX 9070 XT comes with higher power consumption but doesn’t quite deliver the performance to justify it, especially against its rivals.

I had hoped for a bigger leap in ray tracing, and while there are improvements, it still falls short of expectations.

That said, the price/performance ratio is better than NVIDIA’s latest 50-series GPUs, and at the end of the day, gamers vote with their wallets.

FSR 4 looks like a decent contender to DLSS 4, which could help offset performance concerns.

I don’t see these cards shaking up the most-used GPU charts anytime soon. However, if this mid-tier GPU has better availability than the mid-tier 50-series, that could change the equation.

 

[mcnabney]

I don't know about how much they can increase production. True they have just stupid amounts of cash, but you can't buy something that doesn't exist, available fab capacity.

They *will not* sacrifice data center production for consumer production. All of TSMCs available capacity is sold already. The only way they can increase their output of consumer cards is to cannibalize a more valuable revenue stream.

They already are sacrificing data center production. They could stop using their wafers to make GPUs entirely and just make AI cards and they would still sell out.
The 50XX/90XX GPU lines are on a mature process that has tons of fabs available. They can buy wafers from other companies if they want to.

 

[Gezzer]

Looking for some input.

Current system: 5800X3D, 32GB RAM, and a GTX 4070 (12GB vRAM).

Fairly certain my CPU is a bit too weak for the XT, so I'm wondering how much performance uplift I'd see with replacing the 4070 with the 9700. Right now they're priced at about 1,000 CN, and my current system is fine, running most games at a good FPS and graphical setting. Still if I'd see a good improvement I might pull the trigger.

 

[Shirley Dulcey]

I can't say what pricing will look like going forward. What I can say is that Micro Center (a computer retailer in the US) sold thousands of cards on launch day, at list price. Perhaps tens of thousands; they had a LOT of cards.

 

[DanteSmith]

They already are sacrificing data center production. They could stop using their wafers to make GPUs entirely and just make AI cards and they would still sell out.
The 50XX/90XX GPU lines are on a mature process that has tons of fabs available. They can buy wafers from other companies if they want to.

No, The Instinct lineup utilizes 5nm. RDNA 4 competes with EPYC and Ryzen—both more profitable—for 4nm production capacity. AMD had to make some tough decisions.

 

[mbk34]

I'm fortunate with my 6650XT as neither my monitor nor my eyes provide 4K resolution.

 

[TempleOrion]

It's 6th of march. Sorry, but looks like paperlaunch. Not available anywhere in EU. Not even a single placeholder, while nVidia had like dozens in every shop week ahead. Those YT influencers must have grabbed all of them.

Saw that over in the UK, OverClockers had several thousand, enough to build a "Borg Cube" out of the boxes LOL (not sure how many at RRP but definitely some, all sold out by now I'm sure) and Scan.co.uk have some too I believe, at about £100/€110 above RRP.

Dunno what shipping to mainland would be, especially post-Brexit.

Prices may start to come more in line with 'Murica, even with sales taxes, since the rest of the world isn't inflicting inflationary tariffs on themselves WRT these products. Will be even cheaper for everyone else if Trump does go full-retard and put 100% on Taiwan

 

[Loadedaxe]

I'm fortunate with my 6650XT as neither my monitor nor my eyes provide 4K resolution.

I am getting there as well. lol

 

[Achaios]

I'm impressed at it coming within striking distance or even matching the 4080 in raster performance while the (supposed) MSRP is half of what the 4080's was. It'll be a great upgrade option for those who have skipped a few generations. We'll have to see how things actually shake out in regards to price, but if the supply is there for around MSRP I'll congratulate AMD on a job well done.

It'll be a great upgrade option for those who have skipped a few generations.

Absolutely not, it won't "be great upgrade option for those who have skipped a few generations."

I am sitting on a GTX 1080.

I will only consider upgrading AFTER I see the NVIDIA 6th Gen cards and the corresponding AMD ones.

Right now, you are in the midst of a huge cluster-party, similar to the one that happened during Covid with ETHEREUM.

Even RTX 3050's sell for $500.

 

[mcnabney]

No, The Instinct lineup utilizes 5nm. RDNA 4 competes with EPYC and Ryzen—both more profitable—for 4nm production capacity. AMD had to make some tough decisions.

I was talking about capacity of the entire market. Those fabs make all kinds of chips. A company with a contract to manufacture 10,000 wafers at N4P to make chips for drones could sell some / all of that contracted capacity to AMD to increase their volume. This is all just business.